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    Fatality Belt Latent Testing

    Testing on Lv0 Bees in Sarutabaruta. With Sneak Attack. Unknown latent trigger.

    STR59+5 / DEX62+17 kept constant throughout testing. Weapon used was a Beast Slayer.

    X's Knife on wiki suggest ~10-12% increase on its "increases critical hit damage" or a PDIF rise of 0.3 over cap. This may or may not have the same effect.

    Suggested Triggers
    - More than 100% TP.
    - Someone dead in party.
    - Red/Orange/Yellow HP.
    - Low/Empty MP.
    - Sneak Attack and/or Trick Attack
    - Whilst Weakened.

    I will be roughly testing the HP/weakened triggers which I think have the most chance of being correct (Fatality). Sample size is only 10, with 1min recasts between Sneak Attacks you can see why.

    Without Belt (max HP/MP)
    165
    154
    166
    150
    148
    168
    153
    168
    144
    167
    Spread: 144 ~ 168
    Average: 158.3



    With Belt (max HP/MP)
    163
    165
    163
    165
    170
    147
    165
    167
    161
    162
    Spread: 147 ~ 170
    Average: 162.8


    With Belt (Weakend and Red HP; done with Self-Destruct)
    159
    161
    152
    148
    160
    153
    162
    151
    161
    163
    Spread: 148 ~ 163
    Average: 157


    With Belt (Orange HP)
    146
    167
    146
    155
    146
    162
    167
    163
    160
    145
    Spread: 145 ~ 167
    Average: 155.7


    With Belt (Yellow HP)
    154
    169
    166
    163
    162
    157
    169
    163
    149
    144
    Spread: 144 ~ 169
    Average: 159.6


    Summary

    Whilst more tests are needed as these tests were very small, it appears that having white HP (possibly 100% HP as that was the exact amount) activates the latent, as the white HP test had the highest average and the only 170 recorded. More in-depth testing is needed to confirm these results along with the actual increase in PDIF or direct % increase.

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    I wonder...with a name like that, perhaps it activates when a mob's HP is less than 10%?

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    Only activates when fighting the yet-to-be-introduced Notorious Monster Liu Kang.

    None of the samples you posted were significantly different.

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    The margin of error in each of your tests is within your expected standard deviation for having only 10 trials of each.

    No conclusions can be made from these tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    The margin of error in each of your tests is within your expected standard deviation for having only 10 trials of each.

    No conclusions can be made from these tests.
    with only a 2 point difference between both your low and your high end figures against your control test and only 10 tests, neosutra understates how impossible any conclusion is to draw. in addition, you've failed to test the literally hundreds of other possible latent triggers. it's very plausible that the trigger is something in that untested set. concluding that full HP is the trigger merely because it has the highest value within your set is like concluding that the expensive pants at wal*mart are the best pants in the world because they were the most expensive you've found. while i do not wish to discourage you from running tests, i do want to remind you to do so with some level of scientific objectiveness. we have enough pseudoscientists around here as it is.

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    Maybe it works as the mob gets weaker like under 5%, perhaps because the belt is supposed to help you get the final blow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Only activates when fighting the yet-to-be-introduced Notorious Monster Liu Kang.

    None of the samples you posted were significantly different.
    must also drop a mortal kombat arcade machine on the target to activate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toth View Post
    I wonder...with a name like that, perhaps it activates when a mob's HP is less than 10%?
    The latent activates only when a disembodied voice shouts "Finish him!"

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    For anyone else out there saying "what the crap is a Fatality Belt"? It is a this:

    [Waist] All Races
    DEF:7 DEX+4 Accuracy+4 Latent effect: Increases critical hit damage
    LV 75 WAR RDM THF PLD DRK BST BRD RNG SAM NIN DRG BLU COR DNC

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    Only works after receiving a "TOASTY!"

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    Definitely interested in finding the latent as well, OP. Definitely requires a bit of committed testing. Still not entirely sure about what the boost on X's or Vajra is (albeit Vajra being a different beast). Definitely feasible to discover, but most people can't be f'ed about it.

    I haven't had it drop for me yet, so only advice I can give to you is to try to use the current pDif information to your advantage. A sufficient sample size will likely be one where your highest strike divided by your lowest strike in a sample, is equal to the crit pDif max/min at the pDif cap (or rather, capped atk/def ratio). It could be frustratingly possible though, that if you activate the latent it might not be consistent w/ a max/min test. It could, for example, raise the pDif cap max but not the min. Or it could offer an attack boost, where therefore at the pDif cap you'd not even notice a difference even if you had the latent active (probably not likely), etc etc.

    Ah yeah, also this drops from an NM called Jyeshtha. Tried googling that but it seemed like a bunch of nonsense. Best of luck w/ future tests!

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    Test while weakened?

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    Obviously it's only active on killing blows!

    Best epeen item ever imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kegsay View Post
    With Belt (Weakend and Red HP; done with Self-Destruct)
    159
    161
    152
    148
    160
    153
    162
    151
    161
    163
    Spread: 148 ~ 163
    Average: 157
    He did it weakened already.

    Also, he did it without the belt and it doesn't look much different from the other trials. Obviously n=10 isn't doing us any favors though.

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    maybe it activates when you have a dead person in your party?

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    did you try mob being in red hp (sub 25%)?

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    Wiki is your friend...
    Jyeshta (Hindi: जेठ jeṭ or ज्येष्ठ jyeṣṭ) is a month of the Hindu calendar, also known as Jeth or Iethe. In India's national civil calendar, Jyestha is the third month of the year, beginning on 21 May and ending on 22 June. Jyestha is also the name of one of the 27 nakshatras or lunar mansions.

    In lunar religious calendars, Jyeshta may begin on either the new moon or the full moon around the same time of year, and is usually the third month of the year.

    Traditionally, Jyeshta is associated with high summer, and corresponds to June-July in the Gregorian calendar

    In solar religious calendars, Jyeshta begins with the Sun's entry into Taurus, and is usually the second month of the year.
    Jyeshtha (nakshatra)

    Jyeshtha (The Eldest) (Devanagari ज्येष्ठा) is the 18th nakshatra or lunar mansion in Vedic astrology associated with the heart of the constellation Scorpii , and the stars α (Antares), σ, and τ . The symbol of Jyeshtha is a circular amulet, umbrella, or earring, and it is associated with Indra, chief of the gods. The lord of Jyeshtha is Budha (Mercury). Jyestha is termed in Malayalam as Kētta. The nakshtra is called honorificaly as Trikkētta (Tiru + Kētta).


    The moon in Jyeshtha indicates a person with a sense of seniority and superiority, who is protective, responsible and a leader of their family. They are wise, profound, psychic, maybe with occult powers, and are courageous and inventive. They may experience poverty and hardship in life and can be reclusive and secretive.

    Under the traditional Hindu principle of naming individuals according to their birthstar (see Jyotisha), the following Sanskrit syllables correspond with this Nakshatra, and would belong at the beginning of a first name:

    No

    Ya

    Yi

    Yu
    Most likely it's related to the second version, as the NM is a scorpion. However, the full/new moon theory should be tested as well.

    =p

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    Fatality Belt ... whats a Fatality a Finishing Move ... hmmm.. whats that thing DNC get when they use steps ...oh yeah.. Finishing Moves..

    idk I would think it would activate if you have 5/5 Finishing Moves.

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    Clearly you must enter a very convoluted string of commands after defeating an enemy and if you do it quickly enough you unlock the latent. (yes another lame MK reference)

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    will only work if you are using any fatal1ty products

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