Mythic Weapon Compiled Information

TummieGaruda · 03-13-2009, 07:53 PM

Since there wasn't one that outlines the ones that we know so far I figured one should be made with a link to all the testing done by individuals that have obtained Mythics.

Here is the basic information on Aftermath that was first provided by Jackyl:

The Aftermath effect lasts for 60/90/120 or 180/180/120 seconds per AM Tier dependent on weapon
Lv1 receives an Accuracy bonus. (unsure how much, will test further)
Lv2 receives an Attack bonus. (20~60 ATK I believe, will need to test further - 299TP gave me 347ATK > 406ATK)
Lv3 receives a Double Attack bonus. (pretty high double attack rate, like Joyeuse)
The bonus for each level is unique and will NOT combine with other bonuses.
The accuracy and attack bonus varies depending on the amount of TP beyond the 100 and 200% mark.
You can progress from Lv1 to Lv2 and from Lv2 to Lv3 by performing the mythic WS with enough TP for the next level. -- Meaning, 100tp WS > Lv1 AM > 200tp WS > Lv2 AM > 300tp WS > Lv3 AM.
You can refresh/overwrite Lv1 Aftermath by performing a 100~199TP WS. However, Lv2 and Lv3 AM cannot be renewed.

Now onto the weapons

Burtgang - PLD: Jackyl
Jackyl's Testing
"Reduces enmity decrease when taking physical damage" basically equates to -10% enmity decrease when taking damage.

Carnwenhan - BRD: Letticia
Source
"Increases song effects duration" - Adds +20 seconds to songs.

Glanzfaust - MNK: Almalexia
Source
Aftermath Lv3 does not count fists individually, so only one fist will proc on a double attack for one round.
"Augments Focus" = +5% Attack when Focus is used
"Augments Dodge" = +5% Counter when Dodge is used

Liberator - DRK: Kirschy
Source
"Augments Absorb" adds +3 to the absorb line with the exception of Absorb-TP which is not affected.

Conqueror - WAR: Ainsliy
Source
"Augments Berserk" = +5% attack added to berserk for a total of +30% attack Source2

Tizona - BLU: Dragunov
Source
"Occasionally converts damage dealt to MP" = Conversion averages around 10-20mp with a 10% proc rate. The amount is said to be close to 60mp/min

Laevateinn - BLM: Porkpork
Source
"Enhances Elemental Seal Effect" = +10% damage to spells while Elemental Seal is used.
No information on Aftermath Magic Attack Bonuses have been provided

Kenkonken - PUP: Caile
Source

Martial Arts bonus = -20 delay. The TP per hit is calculated without the -20 Delay giving 5.5 Tp per hit instead of 5.3
Suppressed overload seems to half maneuver burden or double the burden threshold
With Kenkonken, he was able to get off 15 of the same maneuvers before overloading
AM3 OAT DOES stack with melee Automaton WS's but not sharpshot frame.
AM1 = 180 Seconds
AM2 = 180 Seconds
AM3 = 120 Seconds

Yagrush - WHM: Saishyuro
Source
Divine Veil active 100% of the time. Status ailing spells extend to the party
Also active when targeting other party/alliances e.g Casting Paralyna on another party alliance will remove paralyze from all 6 members

Nagi - NIN: Dillinja
Source
"Augments Mijin Gakure" negates weakness effect after using Mijin Gakure.

NeoForte · 03-13-2009, 08:08 PM

Good list so far. Some notes, some Mythics have Different AM 1 and 2, though majority are Acc and Attack. New info learned in Relic thread that AM Lv3 procs during WS.

Flight_93 · 03-13-2009, 08:13 PM

good list so far, maybe people will stop with the enhance vs. augment shit now..

(also needs Conqueror, Laevateinn, & Tizona info/owners, which was posted way back.)

Virtuous Saint · 03-13-2009, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flight_93

good list so far, maybe people will stop with the enhance vs. augment shit now..

(also needs Conqueror, Laevateinn, & Tizona info/owners, which was posted way back.)

Minus real info on Laevateinn.

Aksannyi · 03-13-2009, 08:20 PM

I like this idea. As long as it's updated regularly it can be an excellent place to get some good information on all the mythics as they're upgraded/tested.

Ohaigaiz · 03-13-2009, 08:24 PM

Needs tizona, gkt, staff etc

Starr · 03-13-2009, 08:39 PM

Tizona was said to drain ~60MP/Minute, "equivalent to Refresh".

TummieGaruda · 03-13-2009, 09:49 PM

Updated, however leaving GKT out until we get some solid info.

yayaok · 03-14-2009, 01:03 AM

wow the blm staff really did end up sucking

Seanr · 03-14-2009, 01:19 AM

Kenkonken please >_>

I dunno if I want that or Tizona.

Spira · 03-14-2009, 01:47 AM

sorry but was it mentioned somewhere about 5% crit rate increase?
maybe i remembered wrongly but i thought someone mentioned that

Lishje · 03-14-2009, 02:05 AM

Nice list.

@Kenkonken comment.

Dunno anyone else that is upgrading. *shrugs*

Anyone heard anything? I just started my Duties, Tasks, and Deeds quest.

Silenka · 03-14-2009, 02:21 AM

There's maybe 100 75 pups on my server, if that, so I don't know anyone who is doing Kenkonken. I guess someone is doing the whm club though.

NeoForte · 03-14-2009, 02:34 AM

I would go after Kenkonken but I lack the ability to even do the first quest (No HNM LS for the kings, no Salvage LS yet for Bosses, and Einherjar LS is nowhere near Odin :/ ). Sigh...

SathFenrir · 03-14-2009, 04:34 AM

So does this new information turn Conqueror from suck into potentially awesome?

At first I loved the prospect of mythics. Then my love was raped harder than Harrison Ford in the new Indiana Jones. Now that this shining ray of hope is emerging I don't know what to think D:

Ayn · 03-14-2009, 05:44 AM

Quote:

At first I loved the prospect of mythics. Then my love raped harder than Harrison Ford in the new Indiana Jones. Now that this shining ray of hope is emerging I don't know what to think D:

Don't go into the light man. Don't go into the light.

Indalecia · 03-14-2009, 12:24 PM

The level 3 DA procing on WS's is the only light I'm seeing...

Keyln · 03-14-2009, 10:53 PM

I would be working on Kenkonken, but right now I'm working on Nirvana. @.@

Psion · 03-15-2009, 05:37 AM

I'm working on kenkonken! only 140k tokens, 50 assaults, 29992 alexandrite, 100k ichor, all 3 pandy items, and a few titles to go! >.<v

(P.S. does anyone wanna donate spare alexandrite to me on pheonix? ;; )

Odin'sLaw · 03-15-2009, 08:53 AM

if i could honestly get the Beast King titles i'd give Kenkoken's a go since i can get all the other things needed

Lishje · 03-15-2009, 01:07 PM

Ah, well glad I am not the only one. But Even I am far ahead of that Psion ^^;

Kumbai · 03-15-2009, 02:40 PM

I'm slowly working towards mine Lish.... although my PUP isnt 75 and I'm not even decided if I'm gonna do Ken or Burt ;x @100/150 Tokens, just missing Gulool Ja Ja's title~ Not really working on the rest atm ._.;

Lyramion · 03-15-2009, 03:53 PM

Seriously - anyone without lots of Alex = you are NOT upgrading a mythic. I don´t care for your tokens, amps and whatever titles. Alex or gtfo.

Odin'sLaw · 03-15-2009, 03:56 PM

Alex is tons easier to get then the 3 beastking titles since you can buy alex for 3k on most servers? not saying 90mil is easier to get then 3 beastking titles but...can't really get the titles solo >.>;;;

Nekio · 03-15-2009, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odin'sLaw

Alex is tons easier to get then the 3 beastking titles since you can buy alex for 3k on most servers? not saying 90mil is easier to get then 3 beastking titles but...can't really get the titles solo >.>;;;

Malacite · 03-15-2009, 04:45 PM

According to the Completed Mythics thread, DA from AM3 appears to work on WS as well. Any confirmation that it stacks with normal DA from gear or /WAR ? Would be awesome if say you could land a 4-hit Ascetic's Fury (DA + AM3)

Odin'sLaw · 03-15-2009, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nekio

so your saying you can't get 90mil solo? not saying its super easy but you can't solo the beastkings at all plz read what i'm saying and not do the american "oh i see a word i don't like/understand i havez to be a douchebagz" america you are the weakest link

Nekio · 03-15-2009, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odin'sLaw

so your saying you can't get 90mil solo? not saying its super easy but you can't solo the beastkings at all plz read what i'm saying and not do the american "oh i see a word i don't like/understand i havez to be a douchebagz" america you are the weakest link

Ah, but idiocy knows no borders. I'm out of clever facepalm .jpgs so I guess I have to actually spell it out for you. You'll just have to take my word that I'm facepalm'ing irl.

Just because something can be done solo doesn't make it easier. What's more difficult: farming and buying all ancient currency needed for a relic from bazaars, or joining a Dynamis shell that allows you to sponsor? For people with friends and non-infinite sources of gil, the ToAU king titles are infinitely easier to obtain than 30,000 Alex. A drop that there are only probably <200,000 of on any given server anyway.

I guess if you were a gilbuyer then everyone would hate you and yeah... getting the titles would be much tougher than spending however much 90mil goes for these days.

Lyramion · 03-15-2009, 05:42 PM

Compared to Relic Currency gathering Alex is fierce and hard. I had my Relic currency done from 0 to full in around 5 weeks shouting a lot and a lot of friends supporting me.
But it took 4 months of religious shouting AND every day Salvage (JP shouts, all Alex were mine) to gather up 24000 Alex. I was even lucky to buy a offers of 1600 and 4000 Alex from people who quit upgrading. Also I prolly bought a lot of duped ones when I started.

Alex is and stays the big cockblock on Mythic. Your other stuff will almost magically flow in while you are busy hunting Alex for months. Saying that Titles, 150k tokens, 50 Assaults and 100Amps is almost a Mythic is like saying that you just completed Rank 6 Shadowlord for Dynamis Access is almost Relic

Melios · 03-15-2009, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyramion

Compared to Relic Currency gathering Alex is fierce and hard. I had my Relic currency done from 0 to full in around 5 weeks shouting a lot and a lot of friends supporting me.
But it took 4 months of religious shouting AND every day Salvage (JP shouts, all Alex were mine) to gather up 24000 Alex. I was even lucky to buy a offers of 1600 and 4000 Alex from people who quit upgrading. Also I prolly bought a lot of duped ones when I started.

Alex is and stays the big cockblock on Mythic. Your other stuff will almost magically flow in while you are busy hunting Alex for months. Saying that Titles, 150k tokens, 50 Assaults and 100Amps is almost a Mythic is like saying that you just completed Rank 6 Shadowlord for Dynamis Access is almost Relic

Unfortunately, the Salvage dupers likely skewed the apparent intake of Alexandrites last summer.

03-13-2009, 07:53 PM	#1
TummieGaruda Old Merits Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,216 FFXI Server: Garuda	Mythic Weapon Compiled Information Since there wasn't one that outlines the ones that we know so far I figured one should be made with a link to all the testing done by individuals that have obtained Mythics. Here is the basic information on Aftermath that was first provided by Jackyl: The Aftermath effect lasts for 60/90/120 or 180/180/120 seconds per AM Tier dependent on weapon Lv1 receives an Accuracy bonus. (unsure how much, will test further) Lv2 receives an Attack bonus. (20~60 ATK I believe, will need to test further - 299TP gave me 347ATK > 406ATK) Lv3 receives a Double Attack bonus. (pretty high double attack rate, like Joyeuse) The bonus for each level is unique and will NOT combine with other bonuses. The accuracy and attack bonus varies depending on the amount of TP beyond the 100 and 200% mark. You can progress from Lv1 to Lv2 and from Lv2 to Lv3 by performing the mythic WS with enough TP for the next level. -- Meaning, 100tp WS > Lv1 AM > 200tp WS > Lv2 AM > 300tp WS > Lv3 AM. You can refresh/overwrite Lv1 Aftermath by performing a 100~199TP WS. However, Lv2 and Lv3 AM cannot be renewed. Now onto the weapons Burtgang - PLD: Jackyl Jackyl's Testing "Reduces enmity decrease when taking physical damage" basically equates to -10% enmity decrease when taking damage. Carnwenhan - BRD: Letticia Source "Increases song effects duration" - Adds +20 seconds to songs. Glanzfaust - MNK: Almalexia Source Aftermath Lv3 does not count fists individually, so only one fist will proc on a double attack for one round. "Augments Focus" = +5% Attack when Focus is used "Augments Dodge" = +5% Counter when Dodge is used Liberator - DRK: Kirschy Source "Augments Absorb" adds +3 to the absorb line with the exception of Absorb-TP which is not affected. Conqueror - WAR: Ainsliy Source "Augments Berserk" = +5% attack added to berserk for a total of +30% attack Source2 Tizona - BLU: Dragunov Source "Occasionally converts damage dealt to MP" = Conversion averages around 10-20mp with a 10% proc rate. The amount is said to be close to 60mp/min Laevateinn - BLM: Porkpork Source "Enhances Elemental Seal Effect" = +10% damage to spells while Elemental Seal is used. No information on Aftermath Magic Attack Bonuses have been provided Kenkonken - PUP: Caile Source Martial Arts bonus = -20 delay. The TP per hit is calculated without the -20 Delay giving 5.5 Tp per hit instead of 5.3 Suppressed overload seems to half maneuver burden or double the burden threshold With Kenkonken, he was able to get off 15 of the same maneuvers before overloading AM3 OAT DOES stack with melee Automaton WS's but not sharpshot frame. AM1 = 180 Seconds AM2 = 180 Seconds AM3 = 120 Seconds Yagrush - WHM: Saishyuro Source Divine Veil active 100% of the time. Status ailing spells extend to the party Also active when targeting other party/alliances e.g Casting Paralyna on another party alliance will remove paralyze from all 6 members Nagi - NIN: Dillinja Source "Augments Mijin Gakure" negates weakness effect after using Mijin Gakure. Last edited by TummieGaruda; 05-22-2009 at 04:00 PM.

03-13-2009, 09:49 PM	#8
TummieGaruda Old Merits Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,216 FFXI Server: Garuda	Updated, however leaving GKT out until we get some solid info. Last edited by TummieGaruda; 03-13-2009 at 10:21 PM.

03-14-2009, 04:34 AM	#15
SathFenrir BG's favorite asshole Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5,594 FFXI Server: Fenrir	So does this new information turn Conqueror from suck into potentially awesome? At first I loved the prospect of mythics. Then my love was raped harder than Harrison Ford in the new Indiana Jones. Now that this shining ray of hope is emerging I don't know what to think D: Last edited by SathFenrir; 03-14-2009 at 05:59 AM.

03-15-2009, 05:42 PM	#29
Lyramion Relic Shield Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,601	Compared to Relic Currency gathering Alex is fierce and hard. I had my Relic currency done from 0 to full in around 5 weeks shouting a lot and a lot of friends supporting me. But it took 4 months of religious shouting AND every day Salvage (JP shouts, all Alex were mine) to gather up 24000 Alex. I was even lucky to buy a offers of 1600 and 4000 Alex from people who quit upgrading. Also I prolly bought a lot of duped ones when I started. Alex is and stays the big cockblock on Mythic. Your other stuff will almost magically flow in while you are busy hunting Alex for months. Saying that Titles, 150k tokens, 50 Assaults and 100Amps is almost a Mythic is like saying that you just completed Rank 6 Shadowlord for Dynamis Access is almost Relic Last edited by Lyramion; 03-15-2009 at 05:48 PM.

03-13-2009, 08:08 PM	#2
NeoForte Fake Numbers Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 94 FFXI Server: Alexander	Good list so far. Some notes, some Mythics have Different AM 1 and 2, though majority are Acc and Attack. New info learned in Relic thread that AM Lv3 procs during WS.

03-13-2009, 08:13 PM	#3
Flight_93 Relic Weapons Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 314	good list so far, maybe people will stop with the enhance vs. augment shit now.. (also needs Conqueror, Laevateinn, & Tizona info/owners, which was posted way back.)

03-13-2009, 08:20 PM	#5
Aksannyi Relic Horn Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,214 FFXI Server: Hades WoW Realm: Kil'jaeden	I like this idea. As long as it's updated regularly it can be an excellent place to get some good information on all the mythics as they're upgraded/tested.

03-13-2009, 08:24 PM	#6
Ohaigaiz I suck at that. Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: where you live Posts: 2,124 FFXI Server: Asura	Needs tizona, gkt, staff etc

03-13-2009, 08:39 PM	#7
Starr Banned. Join Date: May 2006 Location: Engrand, Phoenix server HI NEO Posts: 4,584 FFXI Server: Phoenix WoW Realm: Aegwynn	Tizona was said to drain ~60MP/Minute, "equivalent to Refresh".

03-14-2009, 01:03 AM	#9
yayaok Old Merits Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: korea Posts: 1,205 FFXI Server: Ragnarok	wow the blm staff really did end up sucking

03-14-2009, 01:19 AM	#10
Seanr Salvage Bans Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Lanham, MD Posts: 890 FFXI Server: Midgardsormr	Kenkonken please >_> I dunno if I want that or Tizona.

03-14-2009, 01:47 AM	#11
Spira Relic Shield Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,743 FFXI Server: Ragnarok	sorry but was it mentioned somewhere about 5% crit rate increase? maybe i remembered wrongly but i thought someone mentioned that

03-14-2009, 02:05 AM	#12
Lishje Spam Forum Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 168	Nice list. @Kenkonken comment. Dunno anyone else that is upgrading. shrugs Anyone heard anything? I just started my Duties, Tasks, and Deeds quest.

03-14-2009, 02:21 AM	#13
Silenka Relic Shield Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Siren Posts: 1,715	There's maybe 100 75 pups on my server, if that, so I don't know anyone who is doing Kenkonken. I guess someone is doing the whm club though.

03-14-2009, 02:34 AM	#14
NeoForte Fake Numbers Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 94 FFXI Server: Alexander	I would go after Kenkonken but I lack the ability to even do the first quest (No HNM LS for the kings, no Salvage LS yet for Bosses, and Einherjar LS is nowhere near Odin :/ ). Sigh...

03-14-2009, 12:24 PM	#17
Indalecia E. Body Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Midgardsummoner Posts: 2,130 FFXI Server: Midgardsormr	The level 3 DA procing on WS's is the only light I'm seeing...

03-14-2009, 10:53 PM	#18
Keyln Spam Forum Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 161	I would be working on Kenkonken, but right now I'm working on Nirvana. @.@

03-15-2009, 05:37 AM	#19
Psion CoP Dynamis Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 262	I'm working on kenkonken! only 140k tokens, 50 assaults, 29992 alexandrite, 100k ichor, all 3 pandy items, and a few titles to go! >.<v (P.S. does anyone wanna donate spare alexandrite to me on pheonix? ;; )

03-15-2009, 08:53 AM	#20
Odin'sLaw CoP Dynamis Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 254 FFXI Server: Pandemonium	if i could honestly get the Beast King titles i'd give Kenkoken's a go since i can get all the other things needed

03-15-2009, 01:07 PM	#21
Lishje Spam Forum Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 168	Ah, well glad I am not the only one. But Even I am far ahead of that Psion ^^;

03-15-2009, 02:40 PM	#22
Kumbai Cerberus Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Daan Saaf~ England Posts: 459 FFXI Server: Quetzalcoatl	I'm slowly working towards mine Lish.... although my PUP isnt 75 and I'm not even decided if I'm gonna do Ken or Burt ;x @100/150 Tokens, just missing Gulool Ja Ja's title~ Not really working on the rest atm ._.;

03-15-2009, 03:53 PM	#23
Lyramion Relic Shield Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,601	Seriously - anyone without lots of Alex = you are NOT upgrading a mythic. I don´t care for your tokens, amps and whatever titles. Alex or gtfo.

03-15-2009, 03:56 PM	#24
Odin'sLaw CoP Dynamis Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 254 FFXI Server: Pandemonium	Alex is tons easier to get then the 3 beastking titles since you can buy alex for 3k on most servers? not saying 90mil is easier to get then 3 beastking titles but...can't really get the titles solo >.>;;;

03-15-2009, 04:45 PM	#26
Malacite Cerberus Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 441 FFXI Server: Seraph	According to the Completed Mythics thread, DA from AM3 appears to work on WS as well. Any confirmation that it stacks with normal DA from gear or /WAR ? Would be awesome if say you could land a 4-hit Ascetic's Fury (DA + AM3)

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