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    Gunslinger's Renkei Chart- Aden's chart revisited, expanded!

    UPDATE: By popular request, I've linked to a PDF (standard size) and poster-sized PDF version below.

    Those of you following the other thread have already given me a lot of very nice input on this, but it was time for me to stop thread-jacking Psymia's space and move this into its own topic.

    Change Log:
    Spoiler: show

    1.8 changes-

    -formatting with priority letter
    -corrections to:

    Dragon Kick - no priority (only one entry)
    Shark Bite - no priority (only one entry)

    King's Justice - Fragmentation A priority [eg: Asuran Fists > King's Justice should be fragmentation, not scission]
    Blade: Ku - Gravitation A priority
    Tachi: Gekko - Distortion A priority
    Armor Piercer - Compression B priority (I think!)

    1.7-
    -Updated legend
    -Adjusted spacing (text size slightly smallers, spaces between categories)
    -Justified-Right Skill Levels to left of WS name
    -Added missing BLU spells:
    60 Spiral Spin - Transfixion
    61 Seedspray - Induration, Detonation
    70 Asuran Claws - Liquefaction, Impaction

    Edit: Fixed a few more things, PDFs available.


    1.6-

    -Fixed 2nd instance of Trueflight as "Archery" that I missed before
    -New Light and Darkness image samples (thanks Radec for the source images)
    -Level 2 skillchain boxes to help easily find them / identify
    -Removal of "Zilart Relic," etc
    -Increase opacity of Level 3 boxes to help balance the page, to assist with readability I played with the gradients to try to make a "half and half" split down the boxes... I don't know if it's hard for everyone else to read on the color change, but it was a bit tough for me.
    -Played with the opacity of some of the watermark images, seems to be hard to increase their opacity without making it a bit harder to read... may play with it again in the future.


    1.5, change log-

    Quote Originally Posted by radec
    Few new things I noticed, is "Knights of the Round" was the FF7 summon, the WS Excal gives is "Knights of Round" (Zilart Light, Fusion). Transfixion Box, should be "Leaden Salute", not Ledean. Impaction, should be "Burning Strike", not Stike. Compression, "Queasyshroom", not Queesyshroom. Transfixion, Fusion, "Empyreal Arrow", not Empyrial. Induration, "Frenetic Rip", not Fenetic. Reverberation, "Sturmwind", not Strumwind. Scission, "Great Sword", not Giant.

    Also, skill levels for first WS still 10, instead of 5.

    Ok one more, Zilart Light, Fragmentation, "Coronach" not Cononach.
    Edit: Fixed Catastrophe as well!


    Previous changes can be found in the old thread (although, I don't know why you'd be interested since this is the current working version!

    As always, any input, corrections, etc, are appreciated and I will update them as soon as possible.

    Standard Size WS Chart PDF

    Poster Size WS Chart PDF

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    Weaboo of the House of Weave
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    This is really nice. Saved.

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    Fuck yeah, thanks.

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    woohoo! Thanks :D

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    Catastrophe is under Staff!

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    I love it! 'bout time someone updated that chart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kriz View Post
    Catastrophe is under Staff!
    Just trying to give some love to the !

    Fixed it, thanks Reloaded in the OP, will just keep updating the OP since this has its own thread now.

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    Can I humbly request for some color differentiation between level 1 and level 2 skillchains? Right now they're colored the same and it's impossible to go from a lv 2 back to a lv 1, hence some easy visual is needed.

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    Missing A, B, C for priority on some of the PUP WSs... don't think it matters much though

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    And Thanks, by the way

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    this is awesome.

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    fndragon- if you want to give me an example of what you mean/want (MSPaint is fine) I'll take it into consideration. I thought the one-way arrows and names-on-arrows method worked pretty well, but I'm always open to input!

    Miraun- you're welcome , I'm doing it for myself too, since I only play melee jobs. If you want to make a list of A, B, and C properties for PUP WS's I'll add them. When I was originally adding them I had assigned A, B, and C; but upon analyzing the chart I found they weren't really needed since they didn't have an opportunity to use the priority (with the only exception I could find being Knockout, Detonation / Scission, I think). If I'm missing something and it's important to get in there, please let me know! I know next to nothing about pup WS and was using otherwiki, which I rarely trust.

    I think there's probably a bit of useless elemental tagging in the chart as it was, but I just tried to copy it verbatim, then started working on updates/upgrades. Any changes that people would like to see / are logical I'd be happy to make (but it helps if you tell me specifically where to put it ^^ 'Ex: Reverberation, Scythe, 30 Dark Harvest, add "A", etc')

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    Brilliant, just have to make Tempyst download and memorize this for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunslinger View Post
    fndragon- if you want to give me an example of what you mean/want (MSPaint is fine) I'll take it into consideration. I thought the one-way arrows and names-on-arrows method worked pretty well, but I'm always open to input!
    I think he means taking the background color blocks you placed in the upper right section (the four Lv2 Skillchain groups making Darkness and Light) and placing them behind the Lv 2 Skillchain arrows in the lower two-thirds of the chart. The Old Example (Left) below being what you have now, and the New Example (Right) being what I assumed you could add.

    That's pretty much literally the only improvement I can think of.

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    Awesome! Nice to see an updated chart using the same layout. I still wonder if there's some way you could make it cosmetically look a bit nicer. Ayden's still seems much eaiser to read to me, but I'll definitely be using yours for now on!

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    Awesome - now if only my printer wasn't buggered.

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    /Saved. Thanks a lot!!

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    Excellent updates. Maybe increase the transparency a bit on the background colors? You can barely see the watermark images in some sections. I think it's also redundant to say "Zilart Relic" since Relic on its own denotes Dynamis WSs, and Mythic denotes Nyzul. For consistancy I would just refer to them as "Relic WS" and "Mythic WS", and drop the "Zilart Relic" portion of the title entirely from the Light and Darkness sections. The brakets on their own will denote Relic vs standard WSs. The background image transparency could also be reduced a little (opacity increased) for those two sections to increase visibility.

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    Awesome, Ive allways used Aden Charts and loved it so really great to have an update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraph View Post
    I think he means taking the background color blocks you placed in the upper right section (the four Lv2 Skillchain groups making Darkness and Light) and placing them behind the Lv 2 Skillchain arrows in the lower two-thirds of the chart. The Old Example (Left) below being what you have now, and the New Example (Right) being what I assumed you could add.

    That's pretty much literally the only improvement I can think of.
    ^ This is what I had in mind. Just some visual separation.

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