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  1. #361
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    Im wondering why there are no F5 F5 posts yet

  2. #362
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    Turned out to be a dud. (Which I laid my post out with a disclaimer for that anyway!)

    Just asked one of the sacks who I found online, no such fight. Not sure who told my friend they killed it, probably teasing him. Lame.

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    ...until you see someone rockin' a Hachiryu Haramaki tomorrow in Whitegate.

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    just a quick question since im outta the loop, but after all this time why is that 1 ls has a known attempt and nobody else does after all this time?

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    im guessing its the horrible trigger drop rates

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    Quote Originally Posted by halp its zalius View Post
    just a quick question since im outta the loop, but after all this time why is that 1 ls has a known attempt and nobody else does after all this time?
    ~20% drop rate on Tier 4 NM. Most ls out there are lazy, and only a few ppl farm zeni (everyone else just leech!)

    I've been working pretty much every day since update, and we are still 1/3 on PW item. Would be faster if we had 18 people full time working on it, but I'm not sure I can find any linkshells that have more than 5-10 seriously interested by ZNM.

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    if someone actually figures out how to make PW go into 'easy mode' and then you see his awesome drops (we already know he drops that sexy hachiryu armor tho), more people might be motivated towards getting to T5 probably.. or it'll end up being AV2

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    Seems like an endurance test... I have to wonder what the reward could possibly be. Has anything extra special from the dat files not been found yet?

  9. #369
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    I think one of three things will happen:

    A) A LS will kill it and be blown away to see like an E.Body in the pool, or maybe like a stack of Imp. Wootz Ingot at least. Is there a way to check specific mob/zone loot pools? I'm guessing not, since I don't recall anyone ever doing that

    B) It won't drop anywhere near enough valuable items to make it worth the effort.

    C) A simple way to kill it (relatively speaking) will be found, and it'll be worth farming for the Hachiryu body.

    I'd love to try this thing, i'd personally spend hours farming Zeni if I had people willing to do all the work of gettings the pops, even though I despise Zeni farming.

  10. #370
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarage View Post
    Seems like an endurance test... I have to wonder what the reward could possibly be. Has anything extra special from the dat files not been found yet?
    It's been said several times over several threads, but because I'm nice and going to heaven unlike over 80% of these forums, these are the speculated drops:
    -Hachiryu Haramaki
    -Crapaud Earring
    -Roundel Earring*
    -Nanatsusaya
    -Shlng. Baghnakhs
    -Wise Strap
    -Witch Sash
    -Brave Grip
    -Cuchulain's Mantle**
    -Cuchulain's Belt**

    *Rumoured to be dropped off of the past Serket, but it's never been confirmed and I highly doubt they'd give it that much more drops compared to KA/Guivre [S].
    **These were originally speculated to drop off of the Lambton Worm, but I think we would've seen 1 of them by now were that the case. Maybe they're dropped of the Sandworm if you can kill it fast enough?

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    I'd hope Crapaud Earring, Nanatsusaya and the Cuchulain's items wouldn't drop off PW, they're weak sauce.

  12. #372
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starr View Post
    I'd hope Crapaud Earring, Nanatsusaya and the Cuchulain's items wouldn't drop off PW, they're weak sauce.
    cuchulain mantle is the best cape for BLU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zalius View Post
    just a quick question since im outta the loop, but after all this time why is that 1 ls has a known attempt and nobody else does after all this time?
    Please for the love of god read the thread before posting crap like this so we dont have to answer this question 10 more times, and theres been 2 attempts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagacious Sundi View Post
    It's been said several times over several threads, but because I'm nice and going to heaven unlike over 80% of these forums, these are the speculated drops:
    -Hachiryu Haramaki
    -Crapaud Earring
    -Roundel Earring*
    -Nanatsusaya
    -Shlng. Baghnakhs
    -Wise Strap
    -Witch Sash
    -Brave Grip
    -Cuchulain's Mantle**
    -Cuchulain's Belt**

    *Rumoured to be dropped off of the past Serket, but it's never been confirmed and I highly doubt they'd give it that much more drops compared to KA/Guivre [S].
    **These were originally speculated to drop off of the Lambton Worm, but I think we would've seen 1 of them by now were that the case. Maybe they're dropped of the Sandworm if you can kill it fast enough?
    Im gonna go out on a limb and say the Cuchulainn items are off Sandworm if you kill him before he Doomvoids the alliance. Why? Lambton Worm *seems* to have a full lootpool already and the realationship between Fragarach and Cuchulain could be likened to Sandworm and Lambton Worm. Did Sandworm not have parts (as in pieces of himself that could be synth materials) in the .dats as drops at one time? Perhaps the parts and the 2 Cuchulain items make up a Sandworm lootpool which would give players the option of killing the worm before the 'void or take the void and go for the multiple bonus rounds.

    SEs nice little way of extending how long an HNMLS would have to camp said HNM for loot.

    Wise Grip and Witch Sash both have stats that this game has previously never had before in magical crit+% (still wondering if this would proc on heals) so that'd be effort enough to want loot outta PW's pool. The Brave Grip just feels like a balancer for the heavy mage-oriented Pandemonium lootpool with the Hachiryu Hachimaki being the round out for the ZNM system.

    Nanatsuyaya is again just SEs typical "Lets put a GKT on the strongest monster in a new NM system" a la Absolute Virtue. The unique GKT model only backs up this train of thought.

    Balestarius, Orc Gauntlets and Karasutengu are Campaign OP rewards few servers will see at the moment given the dismal situation Campaign has devolved into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    Im gonna go out on a limb and say the Cuchulainn items are off Sandworm if you kill him before he Doomvoids the alliance. Why? Lambton Worm *seems* to have a full lootpool already and the realationship between Fragarach and Cuchulain could be likened to Sandworm and Lambton Worm. Did Sandworm not have parts (as in pieces of himself that could be synth materials) in the .dats as drops at one time? Perhaps the parts and the 2 Cuchulain items make up a Sandworm lootpool which would give players the option of killing the worm before the 'void or take the void and go for the multiple bonus rounds.
    and I'm going to pull in random facts of the FF series and say, that to me Pandemonium means wind stuff, and Cuchulainn also is wind, and that would probably have those items drop off PW.

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    http://www.cactusleaf.org/pics/bg/PandJohnMartin.jpg

    that's a pandemonium

    "Pandæmonium" (American English "Pandemonium") stems from Greek "παν", meaning "all" or "every", and "δαιμόνιον", meaning "little spirit" or "little angel", or, as Christians interpreted it, "little daemon", and later, "demon" (thus roughly translated as "All Demons"). It is the name invented by John Milton for the capital of Hell, "the High Capital, of Satan and his Peers", built by the fallen angels at the suggestion of Mammon at the end of Book I, Paradise Lost (1667). A comparison in meaning can be made with "pantheon", which refers to all of the gods. Book II begins with the debate among the demons in the council-chamber of Pandæmonium. The demons built it in about an hour, but it far surpassed all human palaces or dwellings; it may have been small, though, since the demons are described as shrinking from their titanic size in order to fit in.

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    Eleven owes me $40 bucks

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    No that's a big picture.

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    lol how do i resize x.x

  19. #379
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    Btw, just a thought on the whole "Why didn't the 2nd group see Gulool Ja Ja or Gurfurlur?" discussed earlier. Maybe between the Besieged monsters and Serpent Generals it's <Gulool OR Gurf OR Medusa>, rather than all 3. Also, people were wondering what lamps would spawn if there were hydra/Cerb/khim/vampyr/Odin forms, these are my takes:

    Hydra: Ziz (idk), ameretat, puks (they're both dragons and chimeras), marids, Poroggos
    Cerberus: Eruca (both fiery creatures), dahak (both hellspawn thingies in the same region), marids (both beasts), flan
    Khimaira: Karakul (both mammals with horns...), soulflayers (both found on Hediva and have similar origins)
    Vampyr: Bhoot (both undead), ameretat (they drain and stuff...much like a vampire), bats/hounds/fomors, Qiqirn (2 vampyrs appear in Qiqirn-infested areas: Aydeewa and the sanctum)
    Odin: Dahak (both related to hell and stuff), imps (same)

    EDIT: Also, maybe Fomors for Odin (a la Valgrind) and fire eles for Cerb (a la Black Shuck).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagacious Sundi View Post
    Btw, just a thought on the whole "Why didn't the 2nd group see Gulool Ja Ja or Gurfurlur?" discussed earlier. Maybe between the Besieged monsters and Serpent Generals it's <Gulool OR Gurf OR Medusa>, rather than all 3. Also, people were wondering what lamps would spawn if there were hydra/Cerb/khim/vampyr/Odin forms, these are my takes:

    Hydra: Ziz (idk), ameretat, puks (they're both dragons and chimeras), marids, Poroggos
    Cerberus: Eruca (both fiery creatures), dahak (both hellspawn thingies in the same region), marids (both beasts), flan
    Khimaira: Karakul (both mammals with horns...), soulflayers (both found on Hediva and have similar origins)
    Vampyr: Bhoot (both undead), ameretat (they drain and stuff...much like a vampire), bats/hounds/fomors, Qiqirn (2 vampyrs appear in Qiqirn-infested areas: Aydeewa and the sanctum)
    Odin: Dahak (both related to hell and stuff), imps (same)
    Vampyr would most likely be bats and Odin would prolly be his little adds he spawns during the fight.

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