Is Soul Voice Elegy 100%?

[Xearoveg]

Just a quick question. Couldn't find it anywhere else. This would seem extremely broken. Is it true that SV Elegy would double it and make it 100% or 104% with the horn+1? Isn't there a global cap on this spell?

[RKenshin]

Moved to the best forum for this topic, before you get eaten!

[Kirschy]

You know I was wondering this myself the other day, I'll go test it now.

[Kirschy]

This a little open ended, so I'll just post my tests~

I used the Level 0 Bees outside Gustaberg. They have a base delay of 360. Bee attack animations suck and there's some varying, so I take a total of 10 attack rounds and do an average. I've been doing many of these tests /w Slow + MND, so I know the margin of error is around +/- 5 delay.

Carnage Elegy /w Requiem Flute: 543.6 Delay. ~51% Slow
Carnage Elegy /w Gjallarhorn: 544.0 Delay. ~51% Slow
Carnage Elegy /w Soulvoice + Gjallarhorn: 543.4 Delay. ~51% Slow

There's a lot that needs to be checked. I don't have the time to run more tests atm, because I have a few other projects I'd like to complete first. I'll try running a few more simple elegy tests on harder mobs later to see if there's some kind of cap or just a base 51% slow. In case it matters I had 251 singing, 251 wind skill /w horn equipped.

[Tsukasaz]

Why does it have a lower delay with soulvoice gjallarhorn? Or is that 544.4?

[Conrad]

Hijacking this for a quick thing I've been wondering:

Does Soul Voice increase song accuracy in addition to potency on debuffs, or is it just potency?

[ad3285]

Hijacking this for a quick thing I've been wondering:

Does Soul Voice increase song accuracy in addition to potency on debuffs, or is it just potency?

Potency only.

[Kirschy]

Why does it have a lower delay with soulvoice gjallarhorn? Or is that 544.4?

The variance in delays are just to due to the testing method not being 100% precise. Assuming Elegy is 51% slow. 360 Delay x 1.51 = 543.6 Delay. I have no idea if the game truncates or not, but the tested values are all within 1 delay of the expected value.

[Wizerd]

Hijacking this for a quick thing I've been wondering:

Does Soul Voice increase song accuracy in addition to potency on debuffs, or is it just potency?

Potency only.

I thought it doubled accuracy as well, which is why a lot of people use Soul Voice lullaby things that can't normally be slept easily. (Such as the Morbol pops when you engage Dynamis Valkurm boss.)

[Zilong]

I slept vrtra on my friend's BRD at level 50something after a KRT party with SV lullaby.

Either SV increases accuracy, or Vrtra is retardedly weak against light based sleep that a PC 30-40 level below it can easily sleep it with lullaby.

I'm leaning toward the former though...

[Asdra]

I hear that bards can land silence on Kirin too with their 37 subjob.

Either Kirin has a retardedly weak resistance to silence from /37 subjobs, or everyone can land those freakish spells!

[Rocl]

I hear that bards can land silence on Kirin too with their 37 subjob.

Either Kirin has a retardedly weak resistance to silence from /37 subjobs, or everyone can land those freakish spells!

How many level 50 bards silence Kirin though?

[Asdra]

I'm gonna guess 5% :ashira:

[deced]

Soul Voice definitely doesn't bring Carnage Elegy to 100% Slow effect. Even if it's not a very scientific way of doing things, a difference of 50% slow would be easy to eyeball.

From all personal experience, there IS a noticeable difference (when you're specifically looking for it, not for practical playing purposes) between using Horn +1 on casting Battlefield Elegy and not using it. I've never noticed a difference (in potency) between Horn +1 Carnage Elegy and casting Carnage Elegy with some other flute. Lot of people swear I'm wrong. Maybe I am, I dunno.

SV _does_ bring Battlefield Elegy's potency up approx. equal non-SV'ed Carnage Elegy. Comparing Carnage Elegy and SV'ed Carnage Elegy, I could never tell a difference. But I'm basing stuff on "the eyeball method" so don't take it for gospel.

[ubermonkey]

I hear that bards can land silence on Kirin too with their 37 subjob.

Either Kirin has a retardedly weak resistance to silence from /37 subjobs, or everyone can land those freakish spells!

The last non meleeburn kirin I did I was consistantly landing stun and bind with /drk 37.

[Zilong]

I hear that bards can land silence on Kirin too with their 37 subjob.

Either Kirin has a retardedly weak resistance to silence from /37 subjobs, or everyone can land those freakish spells!

I finally got killed by an angry wyrm once soul voice wore though, if that was any indication of anything.

Could be blamed on resist rate increase that NM gets when you spam debuff on them over 3 min, so I guess it's not really a clear way to prove anything.

The last non meleeburn kirin I did I was consistantly landing stun and bind with /drk 37.

You have pretty fucking low standard of consistency.

[evilpaul]

The only people I've seen land Bind on Kirin were NIN/DRKs, but that's only becase nobody else casts it, basically. As for Stun, with nearly 300 skill, I landed it maybe 20% tops of the time as BLM. Then again, last time I went to Kirin as BLM I had an Abyssal Earring and didn't have NIN at 75.

[ubermonkey]

You have pretty fucking low standard of consistency.

50 odd percent of my stuns landed. That's pretty fucking consistant for kirin. I don't think I've ever landed it as blm.

Weird, never been able to repeat it, everyone in the LS was all wtf etc.

[Max™]

Something like 40 Kirin burns now.

Saw Kirin get silenced by a bard for the first time that I recall now.

Got the fucking shit kicked out of me too, I kinda like when he starts to cast shit then gets interrupted, keeps my ass alive.

[Neosutra]

Sorry im late:

Yes, SV elegy is in fact 100% slow. When you use SV elegy the mob actually stops moving completely until elegy wears off. If you stack SV, elegy, and Elemental Seal, then the mob actually goes back in time and starts attacking itself.