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Old 06-23-2008, 06:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Job/subjob and add effect

I'm looking the possibility to put SJ to my chigoe in exchange to 'Light Attack bonus'

If my chigoe is THF main, does it already have innate evasion bonus and triple attack? (hence THF trait plate is not useful at all)
I saw /MNK won't give you counter and guard on the other thread. Has anyone tried /MNK and MNK trait yet?
If those 2 options are not viable , which soul plates do you guys suggest in exchange of Light Attack Bonus?

My current build is :
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Innate : Attack Speed bonus
Light Damage - 47 FP
Light Attack Bonus - 17 FP
Instant Blink - 12 FP
Instant Stoneskin - 17 FP
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Old 06-23-2008, 06:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Job/subjob and add effect

It is correct that you don't get job traits without the plate whether it's main or sub. You should however get the bonus HP/MP from having a sub and it could be inferred that this would also include base stats. Evasion bonus for a chigoe will probably help more than a couple % HP though.
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Old 06-23-2008, 06:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Job/subjob and add effect

triple attack is level55 so no, you don't have it, same for mnk's kick attacks is 51, so they dont have it (damn you SE) so all you get from THF traist is a slight evasion boost from the evasion job trait equal to a level50 THF (Evasion Bonus III i think it is).

My only suggestion would be (if you want to drop light attack bonus) put on /war and war job traits so you can get some more HP def/att bonus from war traits and double attack when you reach level50.

And vermin can not use the mnk job in any combination. so you can't mnk/mnk even if you could cuonter as /mnk+traits.

[re-edit] I am editing my edit because i DID say what i put in the edit the first time lol, damn work needs to end
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Old 06-23-2008, 06:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Job/subjob and add effect

OK, to make sure I got the idea right:
My chigoe now is lv48, so it still doesn't have Evasion Bonus III yet
Even if I sub WAR now and give WAR trait, I only gain defense bonus, and Double Attack will be gained at lv50

Is that right?

Now to the add damage questions..
My best normal add damage with lv50 Additional Light Damage and lv50 Light Attack Bonus is 75, the crit one (hitting from side) can up to 114. How does it compare if I take the Light Attack Bonus out? How potent is lv50 Additional Light Damage+25 compared to Lv50 Additional Light Damage? Does Light Attack Bonus alone produce additional effect?

EDIT : gain->have, bad bad grammar
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Default Re: Job/subjob and add effect

Correct.
From my tests in the past +25 is not effected by additional damage so will max at +25 flat unless something is weak to light perhaps.
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Default Re: Job/subjob and add effect

Though this is technically impossible to do now..
Is there any difference from DA proc rate of /WAR Lv50 + WAR trait Lv50 vs Double Attack Lv50?
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Is it necessary to have war SJ to enable double attack?
or WAR SJ just add some HP /defense?
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You would need war SJ and war job traits to have double attack. All war SJ does is give you the hp/stats from having the subjob.
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