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Old 06-11-2008, 12:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How do you confirm Innate skills?

Red Magic Scrolls - do they exist? Or only White and Black?

Only skills that end in "Bonus" level right? These are also the only skills that takes into account the level of the mob you got the plate from, stuff like job job/traits/magic it doesn't matter right?

That's all for now, thanks in advance.
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Old 06-11-2008, 03:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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No red magic scrolls. Only bonus stuff levels up, static numbers/precent don't level up. The level you get the levelable skill from doesn't really matter that much, it's easy to level up.
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Old 06-12-2008, 08:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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How to check innate skills though?

Or do job/sub count as innate skills?

Or does my crab just not have any?
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Job is kind of innate since it starts free, but getting a different job mostly just comes from NMs.

You can start with no innate.
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Old 06-12-2008, 09:13 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Can start with no innate, meaning you can add innate later on?

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Innate skills means you get skills for free without costing FP, determined only when you first make the reflector. You can add skills at any time. Sorry if that was confusing. >.>
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Old 06-23-2008, 11:03 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Take your pet right after creating it and check its Feral Skills, if it has one, thats it's innate skill (it might not have one). As said before in here, you can add Feral Skills, but "Innate Feral Skills" are present upon creation of the pet and do not take from the total FP capactiy of the monster, nor do they count toward the 5skill limit of the monster. All pets start with a Main job naturally i.e a Crab starts as PLD/ (most the time), if you take pictures of NM's you can often get a pet that will have a abnormal main job and have a sub job.
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Old 06-23-2008, 04:41 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I got a couple of question


1- What's the difference between "X Bonus" and "Bonus +25"? I know one increase every fight while the other is static, but is the "X bonus" always better than its static counterpart? Also, how much exactly that bonus give? 1% per level?

2- Is there any way to check your opponent skill? Or they are secret?

3- Can you remove skill once they are equiped?

4- I gave my slime damage reduction (innate), stoneskin and phalanx, is it any good? Or I should start over. It's doing pretty good so far, but early match probably mean nothing

5- What type of mobs of innate auto regain beside apkallu?

6- How do you make your monster more tame? Just depend of type?
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Old 06-23-2008, 04:52 PM   #9 (permalink)
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1- What's the difference between "X Bonus" and "Bonus +25"? I know one increase every fight while the other is static, but is the "X bonus" always better than its static counterpart? Also, how much exactly that bonus give? 1% per level?
It's generally agreed upon that the bonus is higher then the static amount. And it depends on the skill for how much it boosts. A stat is probably a static number but something like Max HP rate is a %.

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2- Is there any way to check your opponent skill? Or they are secret?
It's a secret. Having a dispeler helps.

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3- Can you remove skill once they are equiped?
Yeah. Can't remove innates though.

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4- I gave my slime damage reduction (innate), stoneskin and phalanx, is it any good? Or I should start over. It's doing pretty good so far, but early match probably mean nothing
It's ok but heavy defense guys usually have trouble winning. Try giving it something more offensive with the extra points and see if that helps.

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5- What type of mobs of innate auto regain beside apkallu?
Monkeys might. And some mobs will rarely randomly get it but nobody knows which of those for sure yet.

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6- How do you make your monster more tame? Just depend of type?
Spam commands. Theres a temperment sticky for better info.
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Old 06-23-2008, 05:05 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Damn Kuno's Trolling skills are higher than mine... you beat to the answers lol.
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I was already here on this forum to find out where the hell instant shell comes from. >O
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I was already here on this forum to find out where the hell instant shell comes from. >O
Decorative weapons, and yea I know they're wars, but they have it lol
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Really? Damn it. Spent all my time at the Mystics.
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Thanks for the reply Kuno.


What kind of cheap/good offensive ability would you recommand to give with extra points?
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Old 06-23-2008, 05:41 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I guess it depends on how many points you have. If you are war, trait bonuses are a nice boost. Also something like STR+25 for 17 FP and Attack Bonus for 30 FP are good (although I think the STR is generally better, but no way to know for sure). Sleep attack is 23 points but if you attack slow it's probably not worth it. It's hard to tell exactly whats best, try to gauge on how you do against normal non defensive guys and work with that.
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War main with 10 fp, but it's gaining almost 1 points per level. I should be able to set anything by the time I reach 50. I will go with war trait for now and see how it goes.

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2 more questions

1- Can you stack similar trait (ie: str bonus, and str +50)?
2- I read somewhere the max xp you can get is 2k..how does it work? Can you play more than 1 match at once?
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Old 06-23-2008, 05:59 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Use this thread as a guide to figure out a good plan for your pet, I think you said it was a slime which should end with 75FP when it reachs lv50, so try to keep that in mind when your putting skills on your pet.
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War main with 10 fp, but it's gaining almost 1 points per level. I should be able to set anything by the time I reach 50. I will go with war trait for now and see how it goes.

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2 more questions

1- Can you stack similar trait (ie: str bonus, and str +50)?
2- I read somewhere the max xp you can get is 2k..how does it work? Can you play more than 1 match at once?
1- yes, you can put any combonation of skill son a pet as long as they are not the "exact" same thing.
2- yes again, the most XP you can earn in a single session is 2000, the only way to do that is enter in the Diablo cage and have your pet become champion. As champion it will remain in constant fights until beaten and that is how you would obtain 2000xp, there is no cap on Jettons though, and its highly unlikely to hit the 2000xp cap in Diablo Cage since there is almost always a level50 pet being qued there every 5 or so fights.
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Thanks again for the answers. Last question about pankration.

Is there any way to reduce enspell damage other than resistance against the corresponding element? I was wondering if phalanx reduce both normal dmg and enspell, or if the enspell goes through phalanx. Would insta shell (the one kuno mentioned) be any good?

Also, is there a list somewhere that list skill in FP order?
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Phalanx reduces enspell damage, as does shell and the right resistance (which can come from mob type or putting the resist skill plate on). Shell is good on a defensive pet, but if you want to kill enspellers then phalanx does a good job on its own.

Heres a skill guide I use. It doesn't list every skill, though.

http://wiki.bluegartrls.com/Feral_Skills_Guide_by_Shoya
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Yeah, I found that guide after posting (missed the link at the bottom of wiki). Very useful to pick your feral skill.

40/75 points total left. The current champion is aN attack speed + enspell (50dmg) OpoOpo that is tearing everything apart. I was thinking about doing +25 str (17 points) and en-shell (17 points), or maybe en-shel(17)+beast killer (7points).


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Damn, first time I lose. Cactuar 1 level above me with 50dmg en spell. /delete clot
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Phalanx rapes mnks and enspellers. >.> Try that instead of shell.
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Already have phalanx/stoneskin/damage reduction.

And where is the best place to get job trait war? Quadav?
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It was doing 50 damage enspell WITH phalanx on? Was it fully leveled? If so he probably had plates to enhance the enspell damage. If that's the case then shell will definatly ruin it since shell should reduce dmg first, then phalanx if it follows the normal math for that stuff.
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It was doing 50 damage enspell WITH phalanx on? Was it fully leveled? If so he probably had plates to enhance the enspell damage. If that's the case then shell will definatly ruin it since shell should reduce dmg first, then phalanx if it follows the normal math for that stuff.
50 dmg before phalanx, 35 with phalanx I believe.
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Is shell always dispelled before other buff like it's on player? It's kinda nice to lose it first befo