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03-07-2008, 12:40 PM
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Auto-Regain as an Innate
Ok, I used to think that Auto-Regain was an available innate ability to any mob. I have spent a great deal of time trying to get this as an innate for a Wyvern (targeting Wyverns in Gustav Tunnel). I have gotten everything from "Breath Damage Resistance Bonus", "Attack Bonus", "Neutral Attack Bonus", "Attack+15%", "Neutal Attack+15%", "STR+25", "STR Bonus", but i have yet to see Auto-Regain on a Wyvern. Can anyone confirm that this is available or not available to Wyverns.
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03-07-2008, 01:47 PM
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The God Damn Kuno
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Re: Auto-Regain as an Innate
Took me a bajillion tries to get it on my Bee, way back when. I found the same stuff you did, completely random traits being random that I've never seen before. I kept doing it and eventually found a bee that had that trait (then I found out bee's sucked and killed myself rl).
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03-07-2008, 05:52 PM
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Re: Auto-Regain as an Innate
KK, i'll keep trying, think i may take a shot at the wyverns in Grauberg too, since from experience mobs from different zone yield different plates. Back when i wanted a torama i only got attack releated stuff, then went to Chasim and got some auto-regain/regen/refesh cats. was interesting, but maybe the gustav guys just are set to be super rare for it while others may be better chances.
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06-21-2008, 04:51 PM
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Cerberus
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Re: Auto-Regain as an Innate
I used to have a korrigan with innate attack speed bonus... it was great. Everyone stopped pankration and I threw it. I haven't managed to get it back yet but I'm not sure I want to. The current champions are generally 90% magic users, generally elementals. The one exception is a chigoe which for some reason no one can damage.
Is this because the magic users got buffed on an update for no reason or is it just people using them more effectively? Are fast hitting melee able to compete or? |
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06-21-2008, 11:46 PM
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CoP Dynamis
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: NC
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Re: Auto-Regain as an Innate
From my observations of Auto-Regain mobs, the ability seems to only trigger on either a certain temperament/s or a certain WS/s. This isn't something I tested explicitly, it was just very obvious recently when I was changing temperaments on my Crab. The thing that makes Rabbits great is theirs triggers on Whirl Claws, or on the temperament that gives them Whirl Claws. You can see this plainly when there is a rabbit champ in D-Cage. A Crab on the other hand will trigger it for Bubble Shower, but not Big Scissors. I used my friend to help me so it was quite apparent how less WSes were used against the same mob.
For something like a chariot it would be detrimental imo, regardless of which WS it triggers for because it opens them up to be being side-attacked. Phraust, by squid do you mean Kraken? I'd love to know the results of Auto-Regain on that mob type. I gave up a bit easily on mine and didn't get a great innate but I see the potential it has as a heavy hitting Mimic killer.
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06-22-2008, 03:10 PM
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New Merits
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Re: Auto-Regain as an Innate
Yeah, I am using a White Sea Monk Type mob. It swings twice, then Tentacles or Cross-Attacks. I trained ti to be Extremely Aggressive, and am fiddling with tame/wild at the moment.
I don't think it's as complicated as you think. It just simply has a background TP regeneration is all. |
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06-22-2008, 10:34 PM
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CoP Dynamis
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Re: Auto-Regain as an Innate
I think you misunderstood me actually^^ I know what Regain does, it simply doesn't work all the time.
It's awesome that it works for those moves on a kraken, you can build a very strong defense build and/or caster killer with that.
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06-25-2008, 11:25 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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Re: Auto-Regain as an Innate
I blew over 200photos staring at War Ajjattara's in campaign taking pictures the other day... I want that time back for christs sake.
 I see the same crappy Innates for all wyverns and I'm beginning to think that Wyverns just doesnt have auto-regain available (I can kinda understand why, but come on). Here's a list of all the trash I've gotten over the last month... Attack Bonus Attack+15% STR+25 Breath Damage Resistance Bonus (lol?) Magic Attack +15% (wtf) Neutral Attack Bonus Neutral Attack+15% HP+15% any combination of the above with a random Resist Status trait. So I got another question. Has anyone had (I mean have you personally owned it, not heard that some one had it or seen it in an SS) a Scorpion with Auto-Regain, a Skeleton with Auto-Regain, a Ghost with Auto-Regain, or a Qutrub with Auto-Regain? |
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