Set Bonuses

Belgaer · 09-23-2008, 07:32 PM

I can't seem to find any generalized infomation on set bonuses anywhere. I was searching the forums and found several threads on individual (only like 2 or 3) set bonus sets, and I was thinking it'd be good to have a thread to post all this info on, so it could be later added to the wiki's.

As far as I know, Allied Notes set do not require the full set to be worn for the effect to kick in... But the set comes in fractions depending on how many pieces you have on at the time.

The Cobra Coat Set seems to be MACC+5 per piece, excluding the 1st.

The Iron Ram Hauby Set is Elemental Resistances +5 per piece, excluding the 1st.

Other than that, I do not know. I always thought Assault gear requires the full set to kick in. But recently, there seems to be confusion over the ToAU set bonuses.

Any information you have to contribute is greatly appreciated!

(On a personal note, I'm curious about the Denali set myself)

Kaylia · 09-23-2008, 07:37 PM

ToAU set need all 5 part, WoTG increment for every pieces after the 2nd. Both definition you posted are correct

Tricen · 09-23-2008, 08:06 PM

How do you test MACC.

Kaylia · 09-23-2008, 08:09 PM

By both, I meant Iron Ram and Denali. I have no fucking clue for Caster set.

Belgaer · 09-23-2008, 08:14 PM

Well, after casting MP Drainkiss several hundred times with all 3 of my Cobra pieces on and off (as well as 2 pieces), I've kind of had a feel for what, and I can tell you 3 pieces give a clear Magic Acc bonus (I would wager +10), and 2 gives a noticable bonus as well, though not as large of one as 3 together give (I would wager +5). But yeah... I have no actual evidence. XD

miokomioko · 09-23-2008, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaylia

WoTG increment for every pieces after the 2nd.

You mean for every piece past the first?

Like...

1: nothin
2: +5 total
3: +10 total
4: +15 total
5: +20? total

Belgaer · 09-23-2008, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miokomioko

You mean for every piece past the first?

Like...

1: nothin
2: +5 total
3: +10 total
4: +15 total
5: +20? total

Yes.

miokomioko · 09-23-2008, 10:16 PM

What kind of inherent Counter# would a 75 MNK have? Because, the alleged Counter +15 from 4 pieces of Cobra Unit gear is a complete and utter joke in terms of proc rate.

Kaylia · 09-23-2008, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miokomioko

What kind of inherent Counter# would a 75 MNK have? Because, the alleged Counter +15 from 4 pieces of Cobra Unit gear is a complete and utter joke in terms of proc rate.

I'm not sure, but is there any cap to it? If the bonus is applied after the job trait and counterstance, it could bring it to something pretty high, close to 100%.

Probably cap at 50% tho...

[edit]
Assuming it's 15-20%...which is kinda high for a set bonus.

Genosync · 09-23-2008, 10:40 PM

Pretty sure I read somewhere that the counter+ rate is +1 per piece 2-5, giving +4 in total.

Belgaer · 09-23-2008, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genosync

Pretty sure I read somewhere that the counter+ rate is +1 per piece 2-5, giving +4 in total.

I would agree with that. I've had cobra legs and feet on for TPing and I've tanked and soloed plenty, and I've seen maybe 2 counters in 2 months without Counter trait set.

Chen · 09-23-2008, 11:06 PM

whats the average duration of disservement?

sorry, belg will understand <33

Belgaer · 09-23-2008, 11:29 PM

Go to hell. ;-;

eva00r · 09-24-2008, 11:42 AM

The cobra cap + hands give +1 counter. I've send them down to trash as soon as i figure the set bonus out.

Emorej · 09-24-2008, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belgaer

I would agree with that. I've had cobra legs and feet on for TPing and I've tanked and soloed plenty, and I've seen maybe 2 counters in 2 months without Counter trait set.

I have all 4 and I see it activate once like every 4 fights.. /shurg

Nauq · 09-24-2008, 12:36 PM

+5 MACC per piece (beyond the first) seems a bit high, tho I hope it's true.

Starr · 09-24-2008, 03:10 PM

Erm why? thinking from a RDM POV Morri hands, goliard feet, Nashira legs, few head pieces inc even wise cap, and AF body, the set of +20 Magic Accuracy would fall short of this set.

Massimo · 09-24-2008, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belgaer

Well, after casting MP Drainkiss several hundred times with all 3 of my Cobra pieces on and off (as well as 2 pieces), I've kind of had a feel for what, and I can tell you 3 pieces give a clear Magic Acc bonus (I would wager +10), and 2 gives a noticable bonus as well, though not as large of one as 3 together give (I would wager +5). But yeah... I have no actual evidence. XD

I find this very interesting. Are you sure that it is your final answer?

MisutoVapira · 09-25-2008, 01:15 AM

YES - Please second opinion on the Cobra Mage set, +5 MAcc on every piece seems really great... maybe too great to be true... o.o;;

idk, it isn't like SE to actually give us good, and attainable gear. Just doesn't add up... Good+Attainable is like dividing by zero or something. Doesn't reflect SE's track record... I don't believe it.

Moar testing plz, thanks ^^.

Belgaer · 09-25-2008, 01:48 AM

The Iron Ram set is obtainable and very good PLD gear. There are several pieces that are better, but it's good. Same goes for the mage Cobra set, if you ask me. /shrug

Lyramion · 09-25-2008, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaylia

ToAU set need all 5 part, WoTG increment for every pieces after the 2nd. Both definition you posted are correct

Almost - Hachiryu Set was listed as 5, 10 and an asumed 15 Store TP for Setbonus after the first one.

09-23-2008, 07:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
Belgaer Puppetmaster Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 59	Set Bonuses I can't seem to find any generalized infomation on set bonuses anywhere. I was searching the forums and found several threads on individual (only like 2 or 3) set bonus sets, and I was thinking it'd be good to have a thread to post all this info on, so it could be later added to the wiki's. As far as I know, Allied Notes set do not require the full set to be worn for the effect to kick in... But the set comes in fractions depending on how many pieces you have on at the time. The Cobra Coat Set seems to be MACC+5 per piece, excluding the 1st. The Iron Ram Hauby Set is Elemental Resistances +5 per piece, excluding the 1st. Other than that, I do not know. I always thought Assault gear requires the full set to kick in. But recently, there seems to be confusion over the ToAU set bonuses. Any information you have to contribute is greatly appreciated! (On a personal note, I'm curious about the Denali set myself) __________________

09-23-2008, 08:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tricen Rukenshin Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ft Myers FL. Posts: 5,186	How do you test MACC. __________________

09-23-2008, 08:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
Belgaer Puppetmaster Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 59	Well, after casting MP Drainkiss several hundred times with all 3 of my Cobra pieces on and off (as well as 2 pieces), I've kind of had a feel for what, and I can tell you 3 pieces give a clear Magic Acc bonus (I would wager +10), and 2 gives a noticable bonus as well, though not as large of one as 3 together give (I would wager +5). But yeah... I have no actual evidence. XD __________________

09-23-2008, 11:29 PM	#13 (permalink)
Belgaer Puppetmaster Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 59	Go to hell. ;-; __________________

09-25-2008, 01:15 AM	#19 (permalink)
MisutoVapira Melee Summoner Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: The Ashu Talif Posts: 33	YES - Please second opinion on the Cobra Mage set, +5 MAcc on every piece seems really great... maybe too great to be true... o.o;; idk, it isn't like SE to actually give us good, and attainable gear. Just doesn't add up... Good+Attainable is like dividing by zero or something. Doesn't reflect SE's track record... I don't believe it. Moar testing plz, thanks ^^. __________________ Misuto. 75Ranger. 75Red Mage. 75Corsair. Asura Server. Maverick LS.

09-23-2008, 07:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
Kaylia New Odin Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada (Qc) Posts: 8,511	ToAU set need all 5 part, WoTG increment for every pieces after the 2nd. Both definition you posted are correct

09-23-2008, 08:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
Kaylia New Odin Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada (Qc) Posts: 8,511	By both, I meant Iron Ram and Denali. I have no fucking clue for Caster set.

09-23-2008, 10:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
miokomioko Chram Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Francisco/Santa Barbara Posts: 2,704	What kind of inherent Counter# would a 75 MNK have? Because, the alleged Counter +15 from 4 pieces of Cobra Unit gear is a complete and utter joke in terms of proc rate.

09-23-2008, 11:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
Chen Puppetmaster Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 94	whats the average duration of disservement? sorry, belg will understand <33

09-24-2008, 11:42 AM	#14 (permalink)
eva00r Cerberus Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 423	The cobra cap + hands give +1 counter. I've send them down to trash as soon as i figure the set bonus out.

09-24-2008, 12:36 PM	#16 (permalink)
Nauq Melee Summoner Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bastok Posts: 35	+5 MACC per piece (beyond the first) seems a bit high, tho I hope it's true.

09-24-2008, 03:10 PM	#17 (permalink)
Starr E. Body Join Date: May 2006 Location: Engrand Posts: 2,361	Erm why? thinking from a RDM POV Morri hands, goliard feet, Nashira legs, few head pieces inc even wise cap, and AF body, the set of +20 Magic Accuracy would fall short of this set.

09-25-2008, 01:48 AM	#20 (permalink)
Belgaer Puppetmaster Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 59	The Iron Ram set is obtainable and very good PLD gear. There are several pieces that are better, but it's good. Same goes for the mage Cobra set, if you ask me. /shrug __________________

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