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  1. #1
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    Precise slow value on Valhalla breastplate/helm

    Valhalla breastplate: -55/1024 (5.37% Slow)
    Valhalla helm: -55/1024 (5.37% Slow)
    Total: -110/1024 (10.74% Slow)

    (Note: Slow on equipment works as negative haste. Slow from spells/TPs appear to be calculated as seperate terms, but there is still testing to be done.)

    Other pieces of slow, such as hecatomb work the same way. Since recast timers are floor'd SE overcompensates on slow items by giving them slightly higher slow values than listed. (Which contrasts the slightly lower values on haste items)

    Casting Reprisal in either piece makes the recast go from 3:00->3:09. Using both pieces makes the recast go to 3:19. This shows that haste is still truncating the fractional part, and that V gear works the same as other slow pieces.

    I first located a boundry value for reprisal @ 62/1024 and 63/1024:

    (1-62/1024) * 180 = 169.102
    (1-63/1024) * 180 = 168.926

    Then I used Victory March at incrementing skills til I reached the boundry value:

    Total Skill @ 530 = 117/1024
    March + Valhalla Body = 2:49 (169 seconds)

    Total Skill @ 535 = 118/1024
    March + Valhalla Body = 2:48 (168 seconds)

    This shows Valhalla Body is -55/1024.

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    If you stopped to actually learn something you might not post these uninformed posts.
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    how can you be 100% sure that your FPS counting gives results where all values are x/1024 or x/256 instead of just 1+x/100. Like 5% Haste is just *1.05??

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    All testing is done using spell recasts~ In general you can apply these results to attack speed though~

    EDIT: Using spells with recast timers of 3:00 allow for up to x/1024 precision. (It's possible the precision is higher, but we would be unable to test this.) Since Victory March can be incremented by 1/1024, testing for precise values on recasts becomes much easier. There's no frame counting involved, just simple maths and reading the recasts off the menu~

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    well with just 10% slow on equipment wouldnt a rdm n brd haste songs fix that? and homan n velo/speed/velo/ wtf is on ur waiste like a quick belt.. but all that fast cast haste march fix 10% slow esp on PLD idk man !

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    should be wearin b mask anyways most the time unless ur in town makin lov to ur maats cap D; cu

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    I have no idea what you just said

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    Quote Originally Posted by krazylakshmi View Post
    trollintrollintrollintrollin
    Oh. k.

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    oh ur soo cool man

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    Quote Originally Posted by krazylakshmi View Post
    oh ur soo cool man
    Get out

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    Quote Originally Posted by krazylakshmi View Post
    should be wearin b mask anyways most the time unless ur in town makin lov to ur maats cap D; cu
    The ONLY time B Mask is acceptable is for Cures, JAs, Atonement, and I guess town gear.

    Don't be one of those stupid fucks who fulltimes that shit thinking that it's the omfg greatest piece of gear in the world.

    Also: Thanks for the Math on Valhalla's affect on spell recast, but the fact remains that it's kinda frivolous on the grounds that any Paladin who seriously sits there and casts Utsusemi, Flash, or Reprisal wearing Valhalla gear would be better off not playing Paladin, and shouldn't have gotten the Valhalla gear in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krazylakshmi View Post
    stuff
    ChloudStrife on BG?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphus View Post
    but the fact remains that it's kinda frivolous on the grounds that any Paladin who seriously sits there and casts Utsusemi, Flash, or Reprisal wearing Valhalla gear would be better off not playing Paladin, and shouldn't have gotten the Valhalla gear in the first place.
    There's a JP PLD on Bahamut who fulltimes both pieces for everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raen Ryong View Post
    There's a JP PLD on Bahamut who fulltimes both pieces for everything
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphus View Post
    any Paladin who seriously sits there and casts Utsusemi, Flash, or Reprisal wearing Valhalla gear would be better off not playing Paladin, and shouldn't have gotten the Valhalla gear in the first place.
    .

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    ITS OK. SLOW DOESN'T WORK ON JAPANESE PLAYERS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    ITS OK. SLOW DOESN'T WORK ON JAPANESE PLAYERS.
    Even if slow didn't work on Japanese players, THEY ARE STILL STUPID FOR NOT MACROING IN HASTE AND/OR FAST CAST

    >( >( >( >( >( >( >( >( >( >( >(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphus View Post
    Even if slow didn't work on Japanese players, THEY ARE STILL STUPID FOR NOT MACROING IN HASTE AND/OR FAST CAST

    >( >( >( >( >( >( >( >( >( >( >(
    Press the JP button, and presto! Slow now becomes Haste.

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    i've never really done the entire macroing in enmity+ for atonement. Probably should but I don't.

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    I've always been a firm supporter of having the appropriate macro for every action, but knowing when to switch gear, what to switch to, and actually doing it is one of those things that's very uncommon among Paladins nowadays. >_>

    Ever asked yourself why there is a massive on the Aegis? ;x

    http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...0px-Aegis2.jpg

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    It's from the noobs screaming I HAS AEGIS, I DUNT NEED SHIELD GEARZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limlight View Post
    i've never really done the entire macroing in enmity+ for atonement. Probably should but I don't.
    Either fix it or stop playing pld. It cant miss and stacking ENM on it is immediately noticeable.

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