Circle Testing

[Fwahm]

I noticed there really isn't any data on the changes to the circle abilities, so I decided to do some testing of my own, perhaps to jump start more-methodical players. I am aware that my tests are not perfect, but the mathematically inclined may be able to get some rough numbers out of them. My tests included 5 uses of Arcane Circle each, for a total of 7.5 minutes for each test, and I did not have signet for either of these tests.

Test #1

Job: DRK75/RDM37
Weapon: Warp Cudgel, capped fSTR (24 DMG) (note 25% damage bonus due to blunt)
Stats: 250 attack, 283 Defense, 66 Vitality
Enemy: Level 56 Dromas

Range of damage dealt (Without Arcane Circle): 31-51
Range of damage dealt (With Arcane Circle): 36-62
Range of damage taken (Without Arcane Circle): 26-59
Range of damage taken (With Arcane Circle): 21-45

Test #2

Job: DRK75/RDM37
Weapon: Seiryu's Sword, capped fSTR (58 DMG)
Stats: Capped cRatio
Enemy: Level 41-43 Clockwork Pods

Range of damage dealt (Without Arcane Circle): 91-139
Range of damage dealt (With Arcane Circle): 108-156

This second test is interesting, as you can see that the Circle effect raises your effective DMG rating as well as possibly raising attack directly.

I hope these tests give a decent enough starting point for more exacting tests.

[Metah]

I was gonna try with Killer Instinct Darters vs. Goobbues with 1 Killer Instinct merit but I keep forgetting to =| I'll try tonight or tomorrow or something if someone else hasn't yet, cause I've been curious about this too

[The Stig]

Sorry, you done all your tests wrong.

You should be doing it against a raptor.

[Cratylus]

My tests show +15% damage physical and magical against mobs of that type with circle effect on. This includes shield bash (even the enhanced damage from F ring and Aegis get the +15%). Also tested warding circle with some blm on imps and it was exactly +15% for them too.

I messaged Kaeko about this but don't think he has checked the message yet XD

[Rugazanami]

My tests show +15% damage physical and magical against mobs of that type with circle effect on. This includes shield bash (even the enhanced damage from F ring and Aegis get the +15%). Also tested warding circle with some blm on imps and it was exactly +15% for them too.

I messaged Kaeko about this but don't think he has checked the message yet XD

Time to bring Flowerpot Bill to Kirin zerg.

[Fridell]

I already forgot the Circles got buffed till I opened this thread..
Well some more tests about this subject would be good I guess, can't have too much information.

[Spira]

wow magical damage works too?

thats nifty

[Veyron]

wow magical damage works too?

thats nifty

Ancient Circle vs Fafnir for those Epeen Blm nukes, you heard it first here folks.

[Starr]

so DRG + Ancient Circle with BLMs on Fafnir is +15% damage on elemental magic?

oops didn't read Vey's post, was thinking the same.

[Veyron]

so DRG + Ancient Circle with BLMs on Fafnir is +15% damage on elemental magic?

oops didn't read Vey's post, was thinking the same.

[Fridell]

Ancient Circle vs Fafnir for those Epeen Blm nukes, you heard it first here folks.

I approve of this.

[orson]

The most underwhelming boost ever. Wait no, that'd actually be skillchain boost.

[Zelduh]

Time to bring Flowerpot Bill to Kirin zerg.

Or ol' Amigo Sabotender and hope he uses 1000 needles!

[Gergall]

Or ol' Amigo Sabotender and hope he uses 1000 needles!

Don't bother with an HQ pet. BST's job is to hit Killer Instinct and then drop party for the BRD.

Rag was right, flowerpot bill is appropriate ^^

(edited because i failquoted the wrong person)

[Cratylus]

I've not been able to tell if there is ACC or MACC as well, I've only tested the straight +15% physical/magical damage dealt. I think I'm gonna go mess with Jorm and find out if the def works the same way and is straight % off his breath attacks in the air (might be a few days before I have time to get up there though).

My "guess" is that they simply went with +15% damage dealt (all kinds) and -15% damage taken (all kinds).

[Davricle]

The most underwhelming boost ever. Wait no, that'd actually be skillchain boost.

I guess they could have left it the way it was before and given us no boost at all!

[Soa]

BST's job is to hit Killer Instinct and then drop party for the BRD.

You mean BST may actually have a role in end game now?

[Cratylus]

Curious if it affects souleater as well.

[Yugl]

I keep telling LSs at the Aery that Ancient Circle is back, but they're idiots don't realize it's potential. Who doesn't want 15% DMG on their nukes?

[ronin sparthos]

I keep telling LSs at the Aery that Ancient Circle is back, but they're idiots don't realize it's potential. Who doesn't want 15% DMG on their nukes?

For all of the 1min duration of Ancient Circle?